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When you are working with your students in class, what do you feel about the source of power that is legitimating what you are doing?
If have trust and faith in the ideals that senior management wish to impart to the learners and the culture they wish to establish in the institution, then I feel okay about it. It’s important that I feel that source of power listens to any contributions I make to what that culture looks like, what those ideas are, and how they might be achieved. That said, not every detail of what the powers that be wants to happen will be possible to enforce, and I particularly tend to be ambivalent about enforcing bureaucratic rules I don’t agree with.
What is driving you to do the things you do?
Being a good employee, keeping my job, furthering my career are all part of my motivations, as well as being a generally kind person with his own values and rules for what good interaction/behaviour looks like. I will always endeavour to ensure the learning environment is comfortable and safe for the learners so that everybody feels able to engage and contribute – both to the to the learning as well as socially.
It is ideology of course but where has this ideology come from?
Some of the ideology comes from the institution, from management, the associated board, informed by the rules of wider society; some, such as my own personal values and rules, come from the experience of living in and contributing to a society along with being part of learning institutions as a learner and teacher these personal ideologies are mainly come from ideas about how to treat people in mana-enhancing, kind, empathetic ways. My own ideologies come from knowing how one would like to be treated, knowing how it feels to be treated badly/unkindly, knowing how it feels to see those in authority letting people treat others/their peers badly/unkindly – knowing what kind of learning /working environment I want to be a part of and create for others.
What are the main tenets of the ideology that you have bought into as a teacher?
That participants in the learning should behave in ways that respect others. These are communal spaces and learning is often a collective experience – people should not be allowed to be abusive, bullying, harmful to others, either emotionally or physically.Who/what benefits from your interpellatory activities as a teacher? (We like to say it is students of course but who else?)
I benefit from my interpellations (Althusser, 1970), because they create an environment that is more pleasant to be in and work in that if I did not have any interpellatory activities at all. The learners benefit too, because any interpellations are designed to create atmospheres and environments that are conducive to learning and wellbeing. The wider institution benefits too, through a reputation of having well-run learning spaces and producing successful learners. In a far broader sense, society benefits too, from learners who have positive attitudes and behaviours moving on to contribute to the wider world.
Think of a moment or moments in your own education
and work lives when you really felt called to do something or learn
something. Think carefully and critically about what was involved. Why did
you hear the call but others didn’t? What emotions were involved? How was
your responding to the call also a response to power? In Dave Backer’s terms,
did you ‘get with the programme’? if so, why? |
I heard the
call because I was the one disrupting the class. High school Fench, 3rd Form,
sometime in the 1980’s. It wasn’t a huge disrutption that I caused, nor a huge
intervention on the teacher’s part, but it is a small moment that stands out in
my memory. It involved was the French teacher addressing the room: “Who is
that stupid, stupid person?” I didn’t realise at first that it was
me causing the problem, swinging on my chair and letting it squeak against the
desk – or more like I didn’t realise that noise could be heard around the room
and that was what he was interpellating about. Also think of a moment or moments when you were called to do something, be someone but refused the call… |
One example of an Ideological State Apparatus (Althusser, 1970) in my life comes in the form of a social media chat group. The ideology present in the chat rests in how one should behave as part of the group – one must agree that everyone with what is said in the group, and ratify the actions and behaviours of those in the group, no matter what. I often find myself refusing the call because I disagree with many behaviours of those in the group. I am resistant to the ideologies of the ‘state’ (Backer, 2018). In doing so I am isolated and not considered a true part of the group until I get with the programme and begin to behave in ways that are congruent with the values of the group. |
Also think about moments when you were the
interpellator, you were the one calling someone else to be a certain way/do a
certain thing. What was involved? How did you feel? Did the person respond to
your interpellation? If they did, how did you feel about them? If they
didn't, how did you feel about them? |
I can recall one incident, again a minor moment, when my authority as
a classroom teacher was challenged by a student in the school group visiting my
education facility. The young man in question mocked the way I said his name
when the group was first introduced. This took place with an audience of the
class looking on. I repeated his name as he had said it, and asked if I was
correct with my pronunciation. He said his name once more and I realised I had
been saying it correctly all along. I used humour to diffuse the situation and
interpellate him into ‘getting with the programme’ (Backer, 2018). The group
was there to get work together in collaborative fashion, offering resistance to
the programme would only get in the way of our progress.
Being the interpellator was not always
comfortable for me, particularly in the beginning of my teaching career. I would
often be unsure in my position, and felt awkward wielding any authority, at
times feeling almost fearful because of the thought that occurred in those
moments: what happens if my interpellation fails? If the interlocutor resists
and I am humiliated by this supposedly subservient being, this child? |
Althusser, L.
(1970). Ideology and ideological state apparatuses (notes towards an
investigation). In L. Althusser, Lenin and philosophy and other essays
(pp. 85-126). Monthly Review Press.
Backer, D. I. (2018). Interpellation,
Counter-interpellation, and Education. Critical Education, 9(12), 1-21.
https://doi.org/http://dx.doi.org/10.17613/M6VD6P449
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